The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg/James Mangold, 1981-2023)

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MoonlitKnight
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Re: Indiana Jones Trilogy

#451 Post by MoonlitKnight » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:19 pm

Wasn't this kind of assumed when it was announced last year that they had bought Lucasfilm?

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Re: Indiana Jones Trilogy

#452 Post by rspaight » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:37 am

IIRC, the franchise stayed with Paramount under the initial agreement last year.


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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#454 Post by Randall Maysin » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:30 pm

Hmm, I wonder how old Harrison Ford will have to get before they...find a replacement.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#455 Post by Ribs » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:37 pm

Spielberg insists so long as he controls the franchise it's not going to hand off the part of Indy to someone else.

Considering that Lucas has given up his control in the franchise it'd not be totally implausible for someone else to end up with this eventually but I dunno if it'll be in anything resembling the near future.

(And this very much seems like a its-the-last-possible-opportunity-so-lets-do-it-now situation)

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#456 Post by aox » Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:15 pm

I've always viewed Indiana Jones as a potential James Bond franchise: Ford is great, but I can't believe there aren't already 15 films with various leads

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#457 Post by Trees » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:07 pm

Mr. Plinkett really tore up "Crystal Skull" and made a very good point about Ford's age. Fans like "characters" like Indiana Jones and James Bond because they wish they were those characters. They wish to live vicariously through the adventures of these heroes -- the brawls and the bedroom conquests. The point RLM made is: When the hero is 60 or 70 years old and can barely keep up with the action, no one wants to be that guy and so the whole thing doesn't really work.

Plinkett on "Crystal Skull".

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#458 Post by swo17 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:11 pm

Except he was a main character in the new Star Wars and that wasn't terrible.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#459 Post by domino harvey » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:14 pm

I never wanted to be Indy. I do like him as a character and how he charmingly navigates the assorted perils thrown at him, which is where a lot of the appeal lies for many rather than in identification.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#460 Post by Arrow » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:22 pm

Plus I'd like to believe I could still have those adventures when I'm 70 and irrelevant, so I'm ok with it.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#461 Post by Trees » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:31 pm

swo17 wrote:Except he was a main character in the new Star Wars and that wasn't terrible.
Ford did not have to carry the entire picture, and, much more importantly, Han Solo is not really an action hero who relies on physicality to the same extent as Indiana Jones or James Bond. Can you picture a 70-year-old James Bond? People were howling and complaining about Roger Moore's age when he was in his 50s!

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#462 Post by knives » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:35 pm

That doesn't make people right though. A very compelling story could be told with these character old and that has been done in the pop arena many times before with old version of Sherlock and Wolverine being some of the most prominent.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#463 Post by Trees » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:49 pm

I'm not saying it's impossible that Ford and Spielberg can make a great Indy film. For example, "Never Say Never Again" kind of pulled off something similar with Connery, by writing his age and some gags into the film. Still, I think Plinkett's point about Ford's age is worth considering, and could be a major, continued hurdle for the franchise.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#464 Post by Zot! » Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:51 pm

aox wrote:I've always viewed Indiana Jones as a potential James Bond franchise: Ford is great, but I can't believe there aren't already 15 films with various leads
There was the young Indy tv show, so we're up to 4 actors thus far.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#465 Post by ShellOilJunior » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:48 am

Indy 5 can be great with the right screenplay. Just don't hire David Koepp again.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#466 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:19 am

I'm sure David Koepp has better things to do, I mean, Mortdecai 2 isn't going to make itself.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#467 Post by Ribs » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:34 am

I think bring him back on board to write a combined Indiana Jones/Jurassic Park 5.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#468 Post by thirtyframesasecond » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:19 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:I'm sure David Koepp has better things to do, I mean, Mortdecai 2 isn't going to make itself.
Didn't realise he made that. It's a long time since Stir of Echoes.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#469 Post by knives » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:26 pm

Though he did do that Michael Shannon bicycle movie Premium Rush which got some pretty positive notice.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#470 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:36 pm

knives wrote:Though he did do that Michael Shannon bicycle movie Premium Rush which got some pretty positive notice.
It was one of the more forgettable movies of recent years, but yes, was actually pretty good. Primarily because Joseph Gordon-Levitt is a really charming screen presence.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#471 Post by colinr0380 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:58 pm

Not to make this all about David Koepp, but his writer's commentary track with 'special guest' William Goldman on Panic Room is a great listen, especially the idea brought up that Koepp had apparently initially wanted everything to be set inside the one building with no outside scenes whatsoever to increase the claustrophobic atmosphere of the film. In some ways that seems to be where Koepp appears to be most in his element, with smaller, intense chamber pieces like Stir of Echoes, Secret Window, Apartment Zero or even the time-constrained Premium Rush rather than with more sprawling material.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#472 Post by Finch » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:44 am

The script for Indy 4 was really a patchwork of many different ideas which is why, for example, the FBI angle gets introduced and then leads nowhere. Figures it's the one script Lucas gave his blessing to.

I hope Spielberg asks Lawrence Kasdan to pen the new script and that Lucas has the good sense to approve it (the Darabont script Indy and the City of the Gods was apparently quite good but Lucas vetoed it).

Had the same experience like domino with Last Crusade; it really is a tedious film and the people who cherish it so much because of Sean Connery really ought to give it another look.

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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#473 Post by DarkImbecile » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:42 pm


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Re: The Indiana Jones Franchise (Steven Spielberg, 1981-2019

#474 Post by aox » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:22 pm

DarkImbecile wrote:...Aaaand there he is.
Perhaps if Lucas isn't running the show, maybe it still has a chance of being alright?


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