Fritz Lang on DVD/Blu-ray
- matrixschmatrix
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
They look really similar, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same transfer- the one shot I could find exactly certainly looks that way.
- HJackson
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
I'm pretty certain they are identical. I looked through the caps Beaver has of the Wild Side back when I got the Exposure, and couldn't spot the difference at all. Not gonna complain though since it's a fine release.
- hearthesilence
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Jesus, glad I saw this before I bought that Warner Archive disc.Frankinho007 wrote:Comparison of While the City Sleeps between the Exposure Cinema disc and the Remastered Warner Archive disc: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/dvd_revi ... sleeps.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FWIW, if you want widescreen, one consolation is to rip the Exposure DVD, re-export it with MPEG Streamclip using the "cropping" function, then burn it back on to a DVD using DVD Studio Pro.
Unfortunately you will take a hit in quality - even if re-compression is not a factor, you're still chopping it down a good number of pixels, and if the exported/burned image is made to fill a widescreen TV (and not just sit letterbox-fashion in an academy ratio screen), it's not going to look ideal.
- matrixschmatrix
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Yeah, there's a debate to be had about Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, but I think there's no question that Exposure's the way to go on While the City Sleeps- I have that disc and it's wonderful. It even has extras- press clippings and sales material and so forth- that are way more interesting that I would have expected, and reflect the company's level of care in putting these out.
- Der Spieler
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
And their release of SBTD is boss!
- Der Spieler
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
I updated the List adding the upcoming Spiders DVD and Scarlet Street BD from Kino. I try to list the best overall release(s) for each title and avoid the problematic ones. But the list is of course incomplete.
Spiders (1919) - upcoming Kino DVD
Der müde Tod (1921) - Image DVD
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (1922) - MoC DVD (only in Mabuse box set)
Die Nibelungen (1924) - Kino DVD for now (upcoming MoC and Kino Blu-rays)
Metropolis (1927) - MoC and Kino Blu-rays tie for PQ, but MoC has more extras
Spione (1928) - MoC DVD
Woman in the Moon (1929) - MoC DVD
M (1931) - Universum, Criterion and MoC Blu-rays tie
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) - Criterion and MoC DVD tie
Liliom (1934) - Extra on "Carousel" DVD
Fury (1936) - Warner DVD
You Only Live Once (1937) - Studio Canal DVD
You and Me (1938) - Koch Media DVD
The Return of Frank James (1940) - Fox DVD
Western Union (1941) - Optimum DVD
Man Hunt (1941) - Fox DVD
(Moontide) (1942) - Fox DVD
Hangmen Also Die (1943) - e-m-s DVD
Ministry of Fear (1944) - Optimum and Carlotta DVD tie
The Woman in the Window (1945) - MGM DVD
Scarlet Street (1945) - Odeon DVD for now (upcoming Kino Blu-ray)
Cloak and Dagger (1946) - Republic DVD
Secret Beyond the Door... (1948) - Wild Side and Exposure DVD tie
House by the River (1950) - Wild Side DVD
Rancho Notorious (1952) - Warner Archives DVD
Clash by Night (1952) - Warner DVD
The Blue Gardenia (1953) - Arthaus DVD
The Big Heat (1953) - Sony DVD
Human Desire (1954) - Sony DVD (only available in Film Noir box set)
Moonfleet (1955) - Warner France DVD
While the City Sleeps (1956) - Exposure DVD
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (1956) - Warner Archives DVD
The Indian Epic (1959) - MoC DVD
1000 Eyes of Dr. Mabuse (1960) - MoC DVD (only in Mabuse box set)
Spiders (1919) - upcoming Kino DVD
Der müde Tod (1921) - Image DVD
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (1922) - MoC DVD (only in Mabuse box set)
Die Nibelungen (1924) - Kino DVD for now (upcoming MoC and Kino Blu-rays)
Metropolis (1927) - MoC and Kino Blu-rays tie for PQ, but MoC has more extras
Spione (1928) - MoC DVD
Woman in the Moon (1929) - MoC DVD
M (1931) - Universum, Criterion and MoC Blu-rays tie
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) - Criterion and MoC DVD tie
Liliom (1934) - Extra on "Carousel" DVD
Fury (1936) - Warner DVD
You Only Live Once (1937) - Studio Canal DVD
You and Me (1938) - Koch Media DVD
The Return of Frank James (1940) - Fox DVD
Western Union (1941) - Optimum DVD
Man Hunt (1941) - Fox DVD
(Moontide) (1942) - Fox DVD
Hangmen Also Die (1943) - e-m-s DVD
Ministry of Fear (1944) - Optimum and Carlotta DVD tie
The Woman in the Window (1945) - MGM DVD
Scarlet Street (1945) - Odeon DVD for now (upcoming Kino Blu-ray)
Cloak and Dagger (1946) - Republic DVD
Secret Beyond the Door... (1948) - Wild Side and Exposure DVD tie
House by the River (1950) - Wild Side DVD
Rancho Notorious (1952) - Warner Archives DVD
Clash by Night (1952) - Warner DVD
The Blue Gardenia (1953) - Arthaus DVD
The Big Heat (1953) - Sony DVD
Human Desire (1954) - Sony DVD (only available in Film Noir box set)
Moonfleet (1955) - Warner France DVD
While the City Sleeps (1956) - Exposure DVD
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (1956) - Warner Archives DVD
The Indian Epic (1959) - MoC DVD
1000 Eyes of Dr. Mabuse (1960) - MoC DVD (only in Mabuse box set)
- matrixschmatrix
- Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 11:26 pm
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Was there anything that gave details about the upcoming Spiders release, or are you just figuring they wouldn't bother unless it was an improvement?
- Der Spieler
- Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:05 am
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
I assumed the new edition would be at least equal in quality.
And this guy thinks a new resto was made after the Sephard one.
And this guy thinks a new resto was made after the Sephard one.
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Re. the upcoming Kino DVD of The Spiders, accompanist Ben Model wrote on Nitrateville:
Incidentally, the BBC (2) has a Fritz Lang noir season in the week leading up to Xmas, including Secret Beyond the Door, While the City Sleeps, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, The Big Heat and Scarlet Street. It might be worth comparing the prints of some titles with the UK DVDs, though I suspect the BBC will use fairly old transfers.Newly transferred from a tinted 35mm print from a foreign archive. Difference in running time between this and the 2002 version is because of transfer speed, although there are a few minutes here and there of add'l footage. Also, the tinting scheme is almost completely different from the the Image DVD.
- knives
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
I wonder if Kino is going to rerelease Hangmen Also Die!. Yesterday TCM showed a version that is far cleaner and better looking than any of the screencaps I've seen for the film so far as if a new restoration was done. I don't know how to take caps off of my DVR to show though.
- swo17
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
There's been a better transfer available for several years now, from e-m-s in Germany. Review here. Did the version on TCM include the scene depicted in the first screencap shown at that link, with the shadows against the wall? (It's right at the end of the film.) This scene is pretty crucial to the film, but was excluded from the Kino release.
- triodelover
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
There's also this, which seems to be a 2001 reissue of this. Both are also available through Amazon.de directly and not through third-party sellers. Anyone know how either of these compare to the e-m-s?swo17 wrote:There's been a better transfer available for several years now, from e-m-s in Germany. Review here.
- knives
- Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:49 pm
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
It did not have that shot as far as I can tell, but my DVR cut out early as a song began to play after the traitor was shot.
- Der Spieler
- Joined: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:05 am
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
For what it's worth, I asked Kino about 6 months ago if they had any plan to re-release 'Hangmen', and they said no.
- JPJ
- Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:23 am
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
In the May issue of Sight&Sound(the one with MichaelB's Kaurismäki cover story)Michael Atkinson reviews Kino's new Spiders dvd and claims that"the restoration of The Spiders is the news,being more than half an hour longer than previous editions".If this is true it would certainly be news but I didn't find anything about this on Kino's website.Noticed the post from Nitrateville above about"few minutes",so which one is correct?Does anyone here own both Image and Kino versions to verify?
- TMDaines
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
The German release of Cloak and Dagger (Im Geheimdienst) is supposed to be an improvement on the US one: click & look at post #10. I still have no idea about the UK disk. Olive seem to have the rights to it now though so we could be getting a new DVD or Blu-ray shortly.bugsy_pal wrote:That's great news about the forthcoming "You and Me" disc from Koch - I've never seen that film. I'm also looking forward to hearing impressions of the new "While the City Sleeps".
I was wondering about the best version of "Cloak and Dagger" - I don't have a copy, and i'm not sure whether to go with the US Republic version or the UK disc which is from "Paladium" (according to Amazon UK). I have not been able to find anything on the quality of the UK disc. It would be nice if it improved on the US version, which doesn't look great according to Beaver screencaps.
- perkizitore
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Well, 'Paladium' is the publisher of the UK DVD, so it must be a PD disaster...
- Dick Laurent
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
You Only Live Once 75th Anniversary
Does anyone know if this release is good?
Does anyone know if this release is good?
- manicsounds
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- Dick Laurent
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
thanks, seems like the Italian blu is the better option.
- swo17
- Bloodthirsty Butcher
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
The Italian Blu is annoyingly stretched though. All I get from this review is that the Studio Canal is better than the Image, but no word on how it compares to the Cinema Club.
- matrixschmatrix
- Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 11:26 pm
Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
I always found these lists really useful, so if Der Spieler doesn't mind I'm going to go ahead and update it with the newer stuff. Let me know if there's anything that ought to be changed.
The Spiders (1919) - Kino DVD
Harakiri (1919) - Kino DVD (in Fritz Lang: the Early Works box set)
Das Wandernde Bild/The Wandering Image (1920) - Kino DVD (in Fritz Lang: the Early Works box set)
Vier um die Frau/Four Around a Woman (1921) - Kino DVD (in Fritz Lang: the Early Works box set)
Der müde Tod/Destiny (1921) - Image DVD
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (1922) - MoC DVD (only in Mabuse box set)
Die Nibelungen (1924) - MoC Blu-ray
Metropolis (1927) - MoC and Kino Blu-rays tie for PQ, but MoC has more extras
Spione (1928) - MoC DVD
Frau im Monde/Woman in the Moon (1929) - MoC DVD
M (1931) - Universum, Criterion and MoC Blu-rays tie
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) - MoC Blu-ray
Liliom (1934) - Extra on "Carousel" DVD
Fury (1936) - Warner DVD
You Only Live Once (1937) - Studio Canal DVD
You and Me (1938) - Koch Media DVD
The Return of Frank James (1940) - Fox DVD
Western Union (1941) - Optimum DVD
Man Hunt (1941) - Fox DVD
(Moontide) (1942) - Fox DVD
Hangmen Also Die (1943) - e-m-s DVD
Ministry of Fear (1944) - Optimum and Carlotta DVD tie
The Woman in the Window (1945) - MGM DVD
Scarlet Street (1945) - Kino Blu-ray
Cloak and Dagger (1946) - Republic DVD
Secret Beyond the Door... (1948) - Olive Blu-ray
House by the River (1950) - Wild Side DVD
American Guerrilla in the Philippines (1950) - Fox Spain DVD (as Guerrilleros En Filipinas)
Rancho Notorious (1952) - Warner Archives DVD
Clash by Night (1952) - Warner DVD
The Blue Gardenia (1953) - Arthaus DVD
The Big Heat (1953) - Twilight Time Blu-ray
Human Desire (1954) - Sony DVD (only available in Film Noir box set)
Moonfleet (1955) - Warner France DVD
While the City Sleeps (1956) - Exposure DVD
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (1956) - Warner Archives DVD
The Indian Epic (1959) - MoC DVD
1000 Eyes of Dr. Mabuse (1960) - MoC DVD (only in Mabuse box set)
The Spiders (1919) - Kino DVD
Harakiri (1919) - Kino DVD (in Fritz Lang: the Early Works box set)
Das Wandernde Bild/The Wandering Image (1920) - Kino DVD (in Fritz Lang: the Early Works box set)
Vier um die Frau/Four Around a Woman (1921) - Kino DVD (in Fritz Lang: the Early Works box set)
Der müde Tod/Destiny (1921) - Image DVD
Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (1922) - MoC DVD (only in Mabuse box set)
Die Nibelungen (1924) - MoC Blu-ray
Metropolis (1927) - MoC and Kino Blu-rays tie for PQ, but MoC has more extras
Spione (1928) - MoC DVD
Frau im Monde/Woman in the Moon (1929) - MoC DVD
M (1931) - Universum, Criterion and MoC Blu-rays tie
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) - MoC Blu-ray
Liliom (1934) - Extra on "Carousel" DVD
Fury (1936) - Warner DVD
You Only Live Once (1937) - Studio Canal DVD
You and Me (1938) - Koch Media DVD
The Return of Frank James (1940) - Fox DVD
Western Union (1941) - Optimum DVD
Man Hunt (1941) - Fox DVD
(Moontide) (1942) - Fox DVD
Hangmen Also Die (1943) - e-m-s DVD
Ministry of Fear (1944) - Optimum and Carlotta DVD tie
The Woman in the Window (1945) - MGM DVD
Scarlet Street (1945) - Kino Blu-ray
Cloak and Dagger (1946) - Republic DVD
Secret Beyond the Door... (1948) - Olive Blu-ray
House by the River (1950) - Wild Side DVD
American Guerrilla in the Philippines (1950) - Fox Spain DVD (as Guerrilleros En Filipinas)
Rancho Notorious (1952) - Warner Archives DVD
Clash by Night (1952) - Warner DVD
The Blue Gardenia (1953) - Arthaus DVD
The Big Heat (1953) - Twilight Time Blu-ray
Human Desire (1954) - Sony DVD (only available in Film Noir box set)
Moonfleet (1955) - Warner France DVD
While the City Sleeps (1956) - Exposure DVD
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (1956) - Warner Archives DVD
The Indian Epic (1959) - MoC DVD
1000 Eyes of Dr. Mabuse (1960) - MoC DVD (only in Mabuse box set)
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
American Guerrilla in the Philippines is missing from the list.
- matrixschmatrix
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
True, but I don't know of a decent release anywhere. If anyone has a suggestion, I'd be glad to include it.
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
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Re: Fritz Lang on DVD
Fox Spain put it out on DVD