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Re: Awards Season 2018

#401 Post by Persona » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:57 pm

Cremildo wrote:
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WGA nominations
The exclusion of First Reformed for the sake of Green Book, Vice, and A Quiet Place is absurd to the point of comical.

Do the voting members of the WGA vote based on liking scripts they think they could/would write themselves?

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#402 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:01 pm

The whiteboard in A Quiet Place > the diary in First Reformed

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#403 Post by Persona » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:04 pm

You can't rip pages out of a whiteboard!

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#404 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:10 pm

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#405 Post by Big Ben » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:15 pm

I'm wondering if Paul's Facebook posts had anything to do with him being dropped seemingly everywhere. I mean Viggo Mortenson dropping the N word at a panel didn't make Green Book any less of a contender. I just don't understand. Perhaps the brain worms are at it again.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#406 Post by Apperson » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:31 pm

Maybe Schrader genuinely doesn't give a shit about the Oscars, and/or A24 has really dropped the ball this year in terms of campaigning their films.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#407 Post by knives » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:46 pm

Also, and this is important, it just didn't make Oscar money. With that gross oscar success was always going to be a long shot. Even for Original Screenplay which is a category more low gross friendly you have to go to 2010 to find anything that grossed in the same range (Another Year also grossed less than 5 mil).

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#408 Post by colinr0380 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:12 am

Big Ben wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:26 pm
The Awards are actually important to me for one reason. Winners usually finally get dumped into my local theater months after everyone else has seen them. I agree about the validity of award shows being questionable but strictly speaking I cannot say they're all bad.

Plus at some level everyone here loves the drama surrounding the show itself even though some of you will deny it. :D
I only watch the Oscars for the dresses! (And Helen Mirren in ever wackier situations)

On tenia's comments, Can You Ever Forgive Me? appears to not be out in cinemas in the UK until the beginning of February, although that has not stopped it from being nominated for adapted screenplay and Richard E. Grant's supporting performance for this years BAFTAs! (interesting to note Peterloo's complete absence from the BAFTA nominations, though great to see Apostasy nominated in the British Debut Film category)

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#409 Post by tenia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:15 am

I found A Quiet Place so dumb it's pleasing to see people ranting on this element, looking at how well it has otherwise been received.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#410 Post by Aunt Peg » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:04 am

colinr0380 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:12 am
(interesting to note Peterloo's complete absence from the BAFTA nominations, though great to see Apostasy nominated in the British Debut Film category)
I don't think the BAFTAs have ever been that keen on Mike Leigh and the film flopped at the box office. Don't know what the critical reception was like but it was one of my favourite films of the year.

I'm rather dismayed that Rupert Everett's passion project The Happy Prince failed to get a single nomination. I really did expect a Best Actor or Best British Film but zilch.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#411 Post by MichaelB » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:28 am

The critical reception of Peterloo was pretty lukewarm, as I recall, and a quick glance at its current 65% on Rotten Tomatoes would appear to back that up.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#412 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:01 pm

New piece in Vulture: Paul Schrader on his Oscar hopes (spoilers for First Reformed within the interview)
Paul Schrader wrote:You’ve never been nominated for an Oscar. That’s kind of strange.
You know, you can’t really dwell on that. I remember saying to Marty [Scorsese] at one point — ‘cause he was all obsessed with that — I said, “If your priority is to get an Oscar, you need a new priority.”

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#413 Post by bearcuborg » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:45 pm

I guess that explains some of his output. I caught Gangs of New York the other day, and a good chunk of it sure feels that way...

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#414 Post by Persona » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:03 pm

knives wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:46 pm
Also, and this is important, it just didn't make Oscar money. With that gross oscar success was always going to be a long shot. Even for Original Screenplay which is a category more low gross friendly you have to go to 2010 to find anything that grossed in the same range (Another Year also grossed less than 5 mil).
Yeah, due to this and just the nature of the film itself, I initially had no expectations of any sort of awards recognition for First Reformed. I guess its dominance amongst critical circles gave me some false hope. The WGA nominations are utterly confounding to me but I haven't paid a lot of attention to them in the past, maybe they're always this hopeless.

Even if you don't love Roma and have some bones to pick with Netflix, you do have to love how they're kind of challenging/bypassing the gross-driven paradigm--even if Cuaron's cache is mostly to thank in terms of the recognition. Will be fascinating to see what happens with some of Netflix's upcoming high-profile films, like the Scorsese.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#415 Post by DarkImbecile » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:05 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:01 pm
New piece in Vulture: Paul Schrader on his Oscar hopes (spoilers for First Reformed within the interview)
Paul Schrader wrote:You’ve never been nominated for an Oscar. That’s kind of strange.
You know, you can’t really dwell on that. I remember saying to Marty [Scorsese] at one point — ‘cause he was all obsessed with that — I said, “If your priority is to get an Oscar, you need a new priority.”
Some great Pauline Kael anecdotes in that interview as well, in Schrader’s inimitable voice.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#416 Post by DarkImbecile » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:58 pm

Just catching up with the BAFTAs, which thankfully are much more predictive of the Academy than the Golden Globes, and have a better set of nominations than several of the Guilds (especially DGA). Shout out to Beast, one of my favorite sleepers of 2018, for the Outstanding British Film nomination.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#417 Post by domino harvey » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:05 pm

BlackkKlansman – Spike Lee
Cold War – Pawel Pawlikowski
The Favourite – Yorgos Lanthimos
Roma – Alfonso Cuaron
A Star Is Born – Bradley Cooper
Would be very happy if these ended up being the Oscar noms. More than one pundit was predicting Pawlikowski as a dark horse for Best Director Oscar nom and I thought they were nuts, but now...

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#418 Post by Fiery Angel » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:10 pm

I just don't get all the love for Bradley Cooper for a competently-made, dreadfully overlong remake. I guess $400 million worldwide helps.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#419 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:33 pm

It was one of the more impressively competent first features in a while, I get it. Cold War was a very pretty arthouse film, but if one of those is getting nominated, why not First Reformed, which looked even better (and arguably was even better)? And despite my feeling that the film looked pretty bad and that the direction sort of detracted from the overall product because of his more tiresome tendencies, I'd much rather see Lanthimos than most in this category.

But the real shame is that Barry Jenkins knocked a soulful film that's brimming with gorgeous Demme homage out of the park a year after Demme's death, and it has just landed with an utter thud, being completely ignored. I know he lost Best Director last time, but I figured he'd easily made his case for being one of the mainstays of that category for years to come.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#420 Post by DarkImbecile » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Looks like the Academy Awards will go without a host this year, which is probably for the best anyway. If they can cycle through a few big names presenting different segments every half-hour or so and get the show wrapped up in under three hours, maybe this'll be the new normal.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#421 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:01 pm

They should use this model going forward, there is absolutely no reason to bog the show down with a host in this day and age

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#422 Post by domino harvey » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:12 pm

Homosexuals hate themselves, therefore they must project that hate unto everyone else.
Who says modern discourse is dead?

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#423 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:15 pm

I thought we had moved on from the Paul Schrader interview

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#424 Post by Persona » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:05 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:01 pm
New piece in Vulture: Paul Schrader on his Oscar hopes (spoilers for First Reformed within the interview)
Paul Schrader wrote:You’ve never been nominated for an Oscar. That’s kind of strange.
You know, you can’t really dwell on that. I remember saying to Marty [Scorsese] at one point — ‘cause he was all obsessed with that — I said, “If your priority is to get an Oscar, you need a new priority.”
What a great interview gifted to a very slow-on-the-take interviewer.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#425 Post by rawlinson » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:12 pm

Film Twitter has just found an anti-Muslim tweet from the screenwriter of Green Book from a few years ago. This is going to be a complete mess.

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