50 L'amour fou

[nowhereisaplace]

Keep in mind that the disc change of the Potemkine doesn't quite match the film's intended intermission (which happens at 3:20 into the 2nd disc).

I don't want to get too far off topic here, but this really baffles me and the same thing happened with the discs for Out 1: Spectre. I forget exactly where the intended intermission happens, but I feel like it is similar (a few minutes into the 2nd disc). If Radiance is indeed 2 discs, I'm sure the disc will split in the same place as the Potemkine. It's so frustrating to see these unnatural intermissions, effectively creating two intermissions for each of these films. I also personally feel that a lot of their brilliance comes from their structures and the intermissions play a big role in that.

[dave1]

What's weird is that the first disc houses the Robert Fischer doc (also on the Radiance), where the intended intermission is discussed (and shown where it happens).
As for Spectre, I recall the Carlotta having the disc change right at the intermission, so no problem there.

[nowhereisaplace]

The entire restoration moved the intermission. In the unrestored print I've seen, the intermission happens directly after the scene in Bulle Ogier's shop where we see both Jean-Pierre Leaud and Juliet Berto cross paths during the same scene. I remember it distinctly, as it was the point where after over 2 hours the narrative began to come together. I also remember after the intermission then slowly watching the narrative unravel from there, so that by the end it felt adrift like we were at the start.

Funny enough, the only mention I can find of this online comes from an old post on this forum from 2015 from dfzp in "The Jacques Rivette Collection" thread:

For whatever it's worth, I can't find any single mention of OUT 1 as a tv series in any french magazine from the period (1971-74) that I own; Rivette likens it to silent serials.
Anyway, it was shot in 16mm at 25fps. However, Spectre was definitely intented for theatrical release, and it was blown up to 35mm (the longer version has only existed in 16mm), I'm assuming at 24fps.
By the way, the german dvd release fits Spectre in a single disc despite the film's length (4h20min), hence a pretty low bitrate. Does anyone know how will Arrow deal with it? Splitting it in two discs will mirror the original release (with the intermission acting kinda as a structural conceit). The restored 35mm prints had the intermission in a different spot as the one intended by Rivette.

[dave1]

I'll take another look at the Carlotta, but I'm pretty sure that the disc change happens at the end of the scene you mention, with the second disc starting with a bunch of b&w stills.

[Adam X]

As does the DVD of Arrow’s release, while the BD fits it all on one disc. There’s no suggestion Radiance’s disc/s will be a port of Potemkine’s, so it seems a bit premature to be making assumptions about their release.

[domino harvey]

If this is two discs, I don't see any reason to believe the film itself will be split, since one of the extras is feature length anyways, so what purpose would that annoyance serve?

[dave1]

Well, the film's file size totals around 62GB on the Potemkine release, which would be impossible wihtout splitting the film across two discs.

[soundchaser]

If David M is encoding the Radiance disc, I have no doubt he could get it under 50 GB.

[dave1]

I was just answering Domino's question. I mean, I could get it under 10GB.

[soundchaser]

No, I getcha. Wasn't an accusation or anything. To clarify: I have no doubt he could get it to look good and remain under 50 GB.

[dave1]

It seems that Radiance has confirmed on Instagram that this is going to be 2 discs.

On the subject of Spectre, I was convinced the Carlotta was 2 blus, but it's on a single disc.
I've been comparing it to the unrestored German DVD (from 2013?), and there's no differences, outside of indicating the intermission (which is the intended one) via intertitles.

[swo17]

Dear customers,

We regret to inform you that there has been a slight delay to our upcoming release of L'amour fou, which will now be released on May 6th.

We at Radiance are committed to bringing you the best possible versions of the films which we release, and because of this we have had to accept a small production delay for this title.

All orders which contain a copy of L'amour fou will now ship shortly before the film’s new release date of May 6th. This will also include those who purchased our April bundle.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause, and are looking forward to bringing you this wonderful film.

Best wishes
- Radiance team

[dadaistnun]

Beaver

[dave1]

Um, what happened to the "uncompressed PCM audio" that still appears on Radiance's site?