Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#26 Post by Glowingwabbit » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:57 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:39 pm
I'm not exactly surprised that I'm seemingly the only one on Earth beating the drum for Detention as one of the best films of the last decade
I'd place it in my top 10 of the decade. I'd say I've rewatched this and Spring Breakers more than any other American film this past decade. I actually hated it the first time I saw it, but revisited after reading some stuff Steven Shaviro wrote about it on his blog. It really caught on after that and I've come to enjoy it more and more with each revisit as there really is so much stimuli (too much for one viewing) to take in. I can't think of any other film that captures the insanity of our current moment of social media and pop culture deluge as well this one. So perhaps it's too soon for this type of film.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#27 Post by knives » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:41 pm

I was actually just thinking about this as I had just watched Happy Death Day 2U which has a lot of Kahn in its DNA.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#28 Post by Glowingwabbit » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:47 pm

knives wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:41 pm
I was actually just thinking about this as I had just watched Happy Death Day 2U which has a lot of Kahn in its DNA.
I can see that. I wouldn't be surprised to see more films this coming decade that have a similar DNA even if the creators aren't influenced by Kahn directly.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#29 Post by knives » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:48 pm

One can only hope.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#30 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:53 pm

Coincidentally I placed a reserve for this last week for the horror project but it's still in transit. I expect to get to it this weekend.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#31 Post by sinemadelisikiz » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:30 pm

Y'all aren't alone. I'd easily go to bat for this movie. Like Glowingwabbit, it's a film I like more and more each time I see it, and I've rewatched it a lot in the last decade. It's become one of my favorites and I don't think I would have checked it out or even heard of it if domino didn't sing its praises early on, so thanks for that!
I'm surprised that cinema like this hasn't caught on more, since this (and maybe Scott Pilgrim too) is the best examples of the kind of multitasking, over-caffeinated reality that comprises an increasing amount of human life in the 21st century. You could argue that the modern blockbuster is just as visually chaotic, but Detention is just so fun and doesn't die from over-seriousness. More Bugs Bunny than Transformers, you could say.

Twbb, I can't say it's really a horror film anymore than it's a teen comedy, body horror, sci-fi, or satire. It reminds me of descriptions I've heard a lot of modern music, where genre is pretty much irrelevant now and the lines between pop, rap, R&B, etc and so blurred as to be pointless. Still highly recommended, natch, and from the horror thread it looks like you have a more generous definition of the genre than I do, so it may work for you!

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#32 Post by domino harvey » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:50 pm

I think he may be going off my spec 100 I posted for the Horror List, wherein several of those question mark choices he's sought out were already designated by me! I agree with you to the extent that I think the film is its own thing beyond "Horror," but given the slasher movie and body horror elements running throughout, it's undeniably part of the genre... and like a dozen others! Glad to hear from more fans, wabbit, knives, and sine. Don't let us fool you, though: I think many members of this board would fucking hate this movie-- it's pitched at a level you either meet and engage with or you suffer through in torture (or, more likely, cry uncle and hit eject). It's a lot harder for me to imagine an ambivalent reaction than an effusive one in either direction

This film also has my second favorite cut to end credits music cue of the decade, behind the untoppable in any decade Killer Joe

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#33 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:14 pm

It’s actually more complicated than that though not very interesting. I was going off of a different list of yours, was one of the few I hadn’t seen, looked it up and saw it defined as horror online, so maybe more unanimous than you think! From your descriptions it sounds like I’ll love it- not just the genre mixing but the perversity of generational attacks. Looking forward to reporting back in this thread shortly

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#34 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:16 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:50 pm
This film also has my second favorite cut to end credits music cue of the decade, behind the untoppable in any decade Killer Joe
The Hateful Eight gets me every time

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#35 Post by domino harvey » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:57 pm

I remember that ending scene but could not tell you what music played after it

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#36 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:02 pm

Here you go, although I suppose the fact that you don't remember makes me off the mark re: it being so memorable!

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#37 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:12 pm

My vote goes to The House That Jack Built. It was very on-the-nose but extremely fitting to the middle finger, and possibly self-reflexive, ending and made me smile. Recently, Perdrix’s did the same but for very different reasons!

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#38 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:03 am

Nothing can prepare one for this experience, which is the first indication that this should be required viewing for those interested in bold experimentation with the medium. knives’ Happy Death Day 2U comparison is good but I was also reminded of the Scary Movie series (in the best possible way) for its unfiltered collage of shameless gags, though it has the smarts of the Landon film, The State company, and like a melting pot of the most imaginatively unhinged comedians of the 90s and beyond. I’d say in a weird way it was like the opposite of Tati’s Playtime where instead of populating a shot with a bunch of subtle visual jokes, this is a series of relentless tumbling eclectic ideas, from visual or verbal, to cultural and social, to broad genre and specific references, and then just random ridiculousness that has nothing to do with anything, established through the subjective experience of a psychedelic-amphetamine speedball. It’s a case of taking everything - and I mean everything - that popped into the head of its writers and throwing it at the wall to see what sticks, and this is a film that could not have been conceived of or worked one bit if it was carefully conceived or peer edited with reserve. This is unapologetic stream of consciousness, taking all the self-awareness of cultural collectivism and clashing perspectives to find a common ground of bewilderment. Some of the best gags involve a gen x view of millennials worshiping gen x for all the wrong reasons, while not being declarative and leaving room for the confession that this view is just as ‘unfair’ as the behavior they’re exploiting! It’s really a no holds barred deprecating exercise that admits the bias and thus gives itself rope by becoming part of the joke. I’m just rambling, because I don’t know how to actually talk about this movie, other than to talk about the Canadian kid who is hilarious in the vegetarian debate and well everything, the dialogue’s density of wit juxtaposed with one-offs about glow-in-the-dark body fluids or else something just as random, and the playing with non sequiturs that take unique transitory concepts and twists them to become new narrative signifiers. I think more than any of the actual nods, I loved the basic social jabs that are funny outside of any specific cultural awareness, so please know that this can be enjoyed even if you’ve been cryogenically frozen for a couple decades as long as you remember what developing around peers was like. I don’t know if I’m going to wind up loving this as much as some here, this is just as stream of thought as the film, but I see myself revisiting it often and catching something new every time. If nothing else, it’s one of the most original movies I’ve ever seen and must be seen to be believed.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#39 Post by domino harvey » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:28 am

Fun fact: Gord is played by Canadian battle rapper Organik

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#40 Post by The Curious Sofa » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:37 pm

Another thumbs up here. Detention has been on my radar for a while but I only got round to watching it tonight. There is nothing I can add to what has been written here, apart from that it’s been among the few things to genuinely give me joy over these last few awful weeks of being stuck indoors. For the first five minutes I thought it might become irritating, after half an hour I never wanted it to end. I can’t think of another film I’ve seen in the last few years so packed with ideas and jokes and so relentlessly fun.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#41 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:52 pm

As knives mentioned upthread Happy Death Day 2U is pretty similar in its inventiveness so I’d recommend watching the first film and then that one if you haven’t already.

Are any of Kahn’s other films worth seeking out?

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#42 Post by swo17 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:02 pm

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#43 Post by knives » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:41 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:52 pm
As knives mentioned upthread Happy Death Day 2U is pretty similar in its inventiveness so I’d recommend watching the first film and then that one if you haven’t already.

Are any of Kahn’s other films worth seeking out?
Yes. His music videos are fairly generic, but his racing movie is a great parody on the level
Of Lord Love a Duck.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#44 Post by The Curious Sofa » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:37 am

therewillbeblus wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:52 pm
As knives mentioned upthread Happy Death Day 2U is pretty similar in its inventiveness so I’d recommend watching the first film and then that one if you haven’t already.

Are any of Kahn’s other films worth seeking out?
I've seen both of the Happy Death Day movies and enjoyed them very much, but they now seem sedate in comparison to Detention.

I'm going to track down Kahn's most recent film Bodied which was critically better received than Detention. Maybe that means it's not as good ? Following that logic, then Torque should be the greatest film ever made, it even gets dissed in Detention.

I also watched The Hunt last night, which tries for something in the ballpark of Detention and mostly falls flat. I liked Craig Zobel's Compliance a lot but his two films since have made me wonder if that was a fluke. The British horror satire Severance did something similar far better.

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Re: Detention (Joseph Kahn, 2012)

#45 Post by Cde. » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:44 am

Bodied is easily one of the best comedy films of the past decade.

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