Kickstarter, Indiegogo, and Crowd-Funding
- kidc85
- Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:15 pm
Kickstarter, Indiegogo, and Crowd-Funding
Absolutely no idea where to put this thread considering that it's going to be discussing both old and new films, but I thought it might be good to have somewhere to discuss some of the crowd-funding projects around at the moment (and you can generally get a DVD of the project assuming you fund enough, so this forum sorta fits).
The project for remastering LA CIUDAD has already reached its target with about 18 days to go. It needed funding because of New Yorker Films' demise.
Michael Apted wants some money to make his third MARRIED IN AMERICA film because "programming priorities have changed among the cable networks".
Dario Argento has a project asking for funds for his new Iggy Pop-starring SANDMAN film because "Dario is a director who must be given free rein!" or something. It's almost tempting before I remember that he hasn't made anything close to a good film in 20 years and his last film was a ridiculously hideous green-screen mess.
But still, at least it's not this.
The project for remastering LA CIUDAD has already reached its target with about 18 days to go. It needed funding because of New Yorker Films' demise.
Michael Apted wants some money to make his third MARRIED IN AMERICA film because "programming priorities have changed among the cable networks".
Dario Argento has a project asking for funds for his new Iggy Pop-starring SANDMAN film because "Dario is a director who must be given free rein!" or something. It's almost tempting before I remember that he hasn't made anything close to a good film in 20 years and his last film was a ridiculously hideous green-screen mess.
But still, at least it's not this.
- kidc85
- Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:15 pm
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
David Cross is releasing his film HITS Radiohead-style in a BitTorrent, pay-what-you-want fashion and is asking for $100k so that he can rent some theatres to play it in (and also so he can operate the pay-what-you-want scheme). It sounds a really interesting plan and is getting pretty good funding but I don't know how much that's due to the film (which looks passable) as opposed to the silly rewards offered (including Cross' shaved beard hair).
Slightly odder, Jemaine Clement's really well reviewed WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS has come, cap in hand, for an eye-watering $400k. Not amazingly sure why they need/want to do this, could they really not get an okay distribution deal?
Slightly odder, Jemaine Clement's really well reviewed WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS has come, cap in hand, for an eye-watering $400k. Not amazingly sure why they need/want to do this, could they really not get an okay distribution deal?
- mfunk9786
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Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
It's one thing to crowdfund for a film to get made, but for distribution? It seems so crazy to me that someone would shell out money to assist with a movie's distribution if they're getting nothing in return if the movie does well.
- PfR73
- Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:07 pm
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
I agree, this doesn't make any sense to me. Isn't the point that people should be paying to actually see the film, not paying for distribution so that then they can pay again to actually see the film? If you were getting to see the film at the $5 or $10 level, it'd make more sense like a presale, but you have to shell out more than a ticket price for either film. And these are films by very well known actors, so I'm confused as to why they can't upfront the funds or get a loan. I didn't have to contribute to a fund for David Lynch when he self-distributed Inland Empire; I bought a ticket to the screening. I really liked both of these films, but this bothers me.
- TMDaines
- Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:01 pm
- Location: Stretford, Manchester
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
Insane. Hope it bombs, even though this a film I'm anticipating and will watch. Can't see why anyone will back this – what sort of deal is it?! – but lots of fools will be separated from their money.
- swo17
- Bloodthirsty Butcher
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Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
Presumably it's worth it to some people to get to meet Jemaine Clement. (I've had the pleasure for free--he was affable enough, but seemed to have designs on my wife...or was it the other way around? )
- solaris72
- Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 pm
- Location: Baltimore, MD
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
I remember the adaptation of Radio Free Albemuth did a kickstarter for distribution ($85k solicited, $92k raised) also; I thought that was kind of nuts. Plus it didn't reflect terribly well on the film- given the general popularity of Philip K. Dick adaptations, if it actually had merit they should've been able to attract some sort of arthouse distribution. (Trailer looked pretty bad too.) And they had a $10k donor level. If you give someone $10,000 to distribute their movie, they shouldn't get an autographed copy of the script, they should get a cut of the fucking profits. That's called an "investor". (I know kickstarter doesn't allow such a thing of course.)
- kidc85
- Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:15 pm
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
Yep, I agree with everything that's been said about WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS. Everything about it is so inexplicably awful, from what they're asking for (maybe there's a really sound idea behind it - I wouldn't know, there's bugger all explanation for it on their page) to the dreadful rewards that punish the supporters (who are most definitely paying over the odds* - $50 for an unsigned DVD!) that I've become mildly obsessed with checking on its progress. The data on Kicktraq isn't convincing either way, but it's telling that the overwhelming majority of funds came in two single days ($83k).
* except for the meet-and-greet stuff which is difficult to put a value on. Having a "personal audio message" sounds fun, maybe not $250 fun, but at least you're actually getting something.
Anyway, Christopher Doyle is making a trilogy of short films about the general state of HK/the Occupy movement. Or something, I hate the way the page is written...
* except for the meet-and-greet stuff which is difficult to put a value on. Having a "personal audio message" sounds fun, maybe not $250 fun, but at least you're actually getting something.
Anyway, Christopher Doyle is making a trilogy of short films about the general state of HK/the Occupy movement. Or something, I hate the way the page is written...
We realized then that her questions have no answers, but asking these questions are what film is all about. What makes our film special is HOW we made it… a process of finding the film by asking these questions… a less AUTEUR way of looking at the world, and hopefully a more REAL and DEMOCRATIC one.
- Emak-Bakia
- Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:48 am
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
Oscilloscope is trying to raise some money for a 2K restoration of Kelly Reichardt's first feature, River of Grass. Seems like a cause worth supporting! I just wish they would add blu-rays of the film as one of the rewards.
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- swo17
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Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
I'll support this, but they're going to restore it in 2K and then only release it on DVD?
- Emak-Bakia
- Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:48 am
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
Yeah, it does seem odd. I sent them a message asking if there are plans for a blu, so I'll certainly report back if I hear anything.
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Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
Hey Guys. Thanks for your interest in the project.
We were stilling getting some ducks in a row and figuring things out. A blu-ray reward has now been added to the campaign page.
Let us know if you have any questions,
O-Scope
We were stilling getting some ducks in a row and figuring things out. A blu-ray reward has now been added to the campaign page.
Let us know if you have any questions,
O-Scope
- swo17
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- Emak-Bakia
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Thanks, Oscilloscope, for the swift response to my email and to this posting! I just backed at the blu-ray level. $20,000 seems like a modest goal, so I don't have any doubts that you'll get there. Should you get past that, any ideas for stretch goals?
- EddieLarkin
- Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:25 am
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
Only ships to: United States
Eh. So, will the Blu-ray be available via normal commercial means after the campaign?
Eh. So, will the Blu-ray be available via normal commercial means after the campaign?
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Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
We need to be cognizant of rights holders. We have opened shipping up to Canada and the European Union.EddieLarkin wrote:Only ships to: United States
Eh. So, will the Blu-ray be available via normal commercial means after the campaign?
Where are you located?
O-Scope
- EddieLarkin
- Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:25 am
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
The EU. Thanks!
- EddieLarkin
- Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:25 am
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German label Subkultur request funds to restore Blutiger Freitag, via Kickstarter, for release in North America.
The Blu-ray will only be available through the campaign according to the page.
The Blu-ray will only be available through the campaign according to the page.
- A
- Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:41 pm
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
^The campaign to release a decent HD master of BLUTIGER FREITAG seems to be going well so far.
But as I understood there will be a regular Blu-ray release of the film if this campaign is successful. The campaign aims to raise money for exactly that purpose, I believe.
But as I understood there will be a regular Blu-ray release of the film if this campaign is successful. The campaign aims to raise money for exactly that purpose, I believe.
- swo17
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Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
Funded!Emak-Bakia wrote:Oscilloscope is trying to raise some money for a 2K restoration of Kelly Reichardt's first feature, River of Grass. Seems like a cause worth supporting!
- dwk
- Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:10 pm
- movielocke
- Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:44 am
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
One of my good friends started a kick starter for his movie. He used to question my sanity for buying dvds and blurays and going to theatres rather than burning copies of Netflix discs or torrenting.
Yet he somehow thinks he should be paid for his work when he himself has refused to pay for others' work and has actively stolen work for more than a decade?
Yet he somehow thinks he should be paid for his work when he himself has refused to pay for others' work and has actively stolen work for more than a decade?
- captveg
- Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:28 pm
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Yeah, I've run across a lot of that type of hypocrisy in the industry.movielocke wrote:One of my good friends started a kick starter for his movie. He used to question my sanity for buying dvds and blurays and going to theatres rather than burning copies of Netflix discs or torrenting.
Yet he somehow thinks he should be paid for his work when he himself has refused to pay for others' work and has actively stolen work for more than a decade?
- Adam X
- Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:04 am
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
J.R. Bookwalter's The Dead Next Door ultimate 3-disc edition.
Like some other's, this one seems doomed to failure due to lack of promotion, though unlike some, the 3-disc set is a certainty - it's the additional stuff listed below that'll be missed out on. Only 4 days left and slowly creeping toward the half way mark.
Features Pending Until Funding Goal Met
Alternate 5.1 Surround Mix with Original Cast (first time ever!)
All-new 2015 look at the 2K restoration
Color booklet with liner notes by FANGORIA Managing Editor Michael Gingold and behind-the-scenes photos
Early Super-8mm Zombie Short Films presented in 1080p HD from 2K film scan, moved to Disc 1 (Blu-ray)
Like some other's, this one seems doomed to failure due to lack of promotion, though unlike some, the 3-disc set is a certainty - it's the additional stuff listed below that'll be missed out on. Only 4 days left and slowly creeping toward the half way mark.
Features Pending Until Funding Goal Met
Alternate 5.1 Surround Mix with Original Cast (first time ever!)
All-new 2015 look at the 2K restoration
Color booklet with liner notes by FANGORIA Managing Editor Michael Gingold and behind-the-scenes photos
Early Super-8mm Zombie Short Films presented in 1080p HD from 2K film scan, moved to Disc 1 (Blu-ray)
- kidc85
- Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:15 pm
Re: Kickstarter, Indiegogo and crowd-funding
There have been a couple of interesting failures recently.
Abel Ferrara managed to raise less than 5% for SIBERIA, whilst Frederick Wiseman is sure not to reach his funding goal for IN JACKSON HEIGHTS with less than 25% raised and a day to go.
I can't say I'm sad to see Wiseman fail: $30 for access to a streaming copy with a 10 day limit feels scummy.
Abel Ferrara managed to raise less than 5% for SIBERIA, whilst Frederick Wiseman is sure not to reach his funding goal for IN JACKSON HEIGHTS with less than 25% raised and a day to go.
I can't say I'm sad to see Wiseman fail: $30 for access to a streaming copy with a 10 day limit feels scummy.