Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
- Scharphedin2
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F.W. Murnau (1888 – 1931)
FILMOGRAPHY
Der Knabe in Blau (Emerald of Death) (1919)
Satanas (1920)
Der Bucklige und die Tänzerin (The Hunchback and the Dancer) (1920)
Der Januskopf (1920)
Abend – Nacht – Morgen (1920)
Der Gang in die Nacht (The Dark Road) (1921)
Sehnsucht (Desire) (1921)
Schloss Vogeloed (The Haunted Castle) (1921)
Marizza (1922)
Der Brennende Acker (Burning Soil) (1922)
Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens (Nosferatu) (1922) Kino (R1)* / Eureka (R2 UK) / Divisa (R2 ES) / Films Sans Frontières (R2 FR) / Masters of Cinema (R2 UK) – release date tba
Phantom (The Phantom) (1922) Flicker Alley (R1)
Die Austreibung (The Expulsion) (1923)
Die Finanzen des Grossherzogs (Finances of the Grand Duke) (1924)
Der Letzte Mann (The Last Laugh) (1924) Kino (R1)* / mk2 (R2 FR) / Eureka (R2 UK) / Divisa (R2 ES)
Herr Tartüff (Tartuffe) (1926) Masters of Cinema (R2 UK) / Kino (R1)* / Universum (R2 DE)
Faust (1926) Masters of Cinema (R2 UK) / Kino (R1)* / Divisa (R2 ES)
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927) Masters of Cinema (R2 UK) / 20th Century Fox (R1) / Carlotta (R2 FR)
4 Devils (1928)
City Girl (1930)
Tabu: A Story of the South Seas (co-directed with Robert Flaherty, 1931) Milestone (R1) / Kino (R1)*
* The F.W. Murnau Collection (Kino)
GENERAL DISCUSSION
F.W. Murnau
The Roots of German Expressionism and Beyond – Some comments on Murnau, and much discussion that is incidental to the director in this thread.
Silent Film Music
Vintage Film Buff – this thread includes discussion on City Girl that evolves into general discussion of Murnau.
RECOMMENDED WEB RESOURCES
Nosferatu – a site dedicated to the film and Murnau by the Silent Orchestra.
Unofficial Murnau site
FILMS
Der Letzte Mann (Murnau, 1924)
DVD
Faust (Masters of Cinema
Flicker Alley – includes discussion of The Phantom.
Kino: F.W. Murnau Collection (5-Pack)
Murnau Giftset?
Nosferatu (Masters of Cinema) – release date tba.
Sunrise (Masters of Cinema)
Tartuffe (Masters of Cinema)
Transit Murnau Box?
BOOKS/ARTICLES
Murnau by Lotte Eisner (University of California Press, 1973)
FILMOGRAPHY
Der Knabe in Blau (Emerald of Death) (1919)
Satanas (1920)
Der Bucklige und die Tänzerin (The Hunchback and the Dancer) (1920)
Der Januskopf (1920)
Abend – Nacht – Morgen (1920)
Der Gang in die Nacht (The Dark Road) (1921)
Sehnsucht (Desire) (1921)
Schloss Vogeloed (The Haunted Castle) (1921)
Marizza (1922)
Der Brennende Acker (Burning Soil) (1922)
Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens (Nosferatu) (1922) Kino (R1)* / Eureka (R2 UK) / Divisa (R2 ES) / Films Sans Frontières (R2 FR) / Masters of Cinema (R2 UK) – release date tba
Phantom (The Phantom) (1922) Flicker Alley (R1)
Die Austreibung (The Expulsion) (1923)
Die Finanzen des Grossherzogs (Finances of the Grand Duke) (1924)
Der Letzte Mann (The Last Laugh) (1924) Kino (R1)* / mk2 (R2 FR) / Eureka (R2 UK) / Divisa (R2 ES)
Herr Tartüff (Tartuffe) (1926) Masters of Cinema (R2 UK) / Kino (R1)* / Universum (R2 DE)
Faust (1926) Masters of Cinema (R2 UK) / Kino (R1)* / Divisa (R2 ES)
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927) Masters of Cinema (R2 UK) / 20th Century Fox (R1) / Carlotta (R2 FR)
4 Devils (1928)
City Girl (1930)
Tabu: A Story of the South Seas (co-directed with Robert Flaherty, 1931) Milestone (R1) / Kino (R1)*
* The F.W. Murnau Collection (Kino)
GENERAL DISCUSSION
F.W. Murnau
The Roots of German Expressionism and Beyond – Some comments on Murnau, and much discussion that is incidental to the director in this thread.
Silent Film Music
Vintage Film Buff – this thread includes discussion on City Girl that evolves into general discussion of Murnau.
RECOMMENDED WEB RESOURCES
Nosferatu – a site dedicated to the film and Murnau by the Silent Orchestra.
Unofficial Murnau site
FILMS
Der Letzte Mann (Murnau, 1924)
DVD
Faust (Masters of Cinema
Flicker Alley – includes discussion of The Phantom.
Kino: F.W. Murnau Collection (5-Pack)
Murnau Giftset?
Nosferatu (Masters of Cinema) – release date tba.
Sunrise (Masters of Cinema)
Tartuffe (Masters of Cinema)
Transit Murnau Box?
BOOKS/ARTICLES
Murnau by Lotte Eisner (University of California Press, 1973)
- HerrSchreck
- Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:46 am
Someone had called my attention to the relatively dim-bulb intelligence level of Murnau's male protagonists-- not neccessarily the performers themselves, but the characters as written and woven in via Murnau's direction. And, beginning with the nearly childlike ignorance (glaring immaturity versus his wife's extreme emotional sophistication and 6th sense) of NOSFERATU's Hutter/Harker-character, there definitely seems to be a point worthy of exploration there. I wrote in reply (we were discussing Borzage's males as well.. not neccessarily the brightest lights).
So via examination of Murnau's vision of a world that will not allow happiness to proceed uninterrupted, we find a variety of backgrounds, types of women, means of interference with the concept of contentment or happiness... but a consistency in the portrayal of the most important male being a let-down, either completely oblivious-- sort of dopey a la NOSFERATU or TARTUFFE-- or willfully ignorant/unattentive a la SUNRISE, FAUST, SCHLOSS. Psychoanalysis for weeks.
We of course see that these men were let downs due to succumbing to the lures and snares in almost every case of some outside force... sometimes urban women (PHANTOM, SUNRISE, CITY GIRL, 4 DEVILS), sometimes relgion (SCHLOSS VOGELOD, TARTUFFE, FAUST in an upside-down, reversal of religion). Even when both mates are strong and fully resistant in emotional terms of their relationship and not subject to temptations via lust or religious hypocracy (TABU, to some degree NOSFERATU), then the one unbeatable force intercedes to take one member away from the other-- usually Death."Interesting point you bring up about the degree of inherent Smarts in the typical Borz/Murnau lead.
Very interesting actually now that I think about it, and something I never actually considered. Like Dreyer's selfless, ever-wise female martyrs perishing in saintly fashion at the hands of hypocritical and egotistical men, there really does, upon reflection, to seem to be a thread running through the bulk of FW's work of dim bulb males.. and I wonder why. From his Hutter/Harker in NOS, his clerk in PHANTOM, SCHLOSS VOGELOD may be an exception.. though the hubby buried in his religious fog driving his wife to anguished infidelity/murder, tho not quite a lead, is indeed a disappointing-to-those-who-need-him and oblivious let-down of a male; both Jannings & Krauss (a let down to his wise, tuned-in wife) in TARTUFFE, Mephi (incarnation of the whole problem viz Murnau, not el diablo per se, but personification of the Problem Of The Base-Instinctual/Hormonally-Obsessed Male) and Faust (a weak, flat out let-down to Gretchen/Magruerite until the last, mostly-too-late moment) in FAUST.. SUNRISE obviously... CITY GIRL obviously... 4 DEVILS, tho lost, had the let-down male lead letting Gaynor down via his frivolousness. Then we get to TABU, which, interestingly, presents the least corrupt male in the "masterpiece canon" (save for Graf Oech/Pater Faramund-imposter in SCHLOSS)... and suffers greatly until paying with his life in the end for it.
Naturally being gay, and social extremely uncomfortable, Murnau had quite a bit of a hard time of it coming from hugely tradition-oriented Bavaria. Interesting that the life and world which rejected him and which he in turn rejected in his actual life-- that land of the hard-working, earth-tilling, sun-baked farmer working honestly for his daily bread, picketed down to the idea of earth, blood, bread, tradition, country, traadition, tradition, and more tradition-- was typically represented by him as The Better Way, the idealized form of life and hom.. this versus the urban world of the City Girl, personified by not only Livingston but by PHANTOM's whore/dream-girl, whatsername from CITY GIRL, the land Away From Home that Tartuffe himself personified, etc, which in theory would have been sympathetic to Murnau's identity and sexual disposition... at least more so than Bavaria.. this was represented onscreen as the land of plasticity, duplicitousness, etc.
Not neccessarily a good thing for FW himself, as Bavaria still was not home to him. All it really meant was that, for him, there quite simply was not a single place in the world he felt at home and could refer to as such. Even the South Seas, which no doubt held a charm for him until it very simply clarified itself in his head, being honest with itself (his head that is) as very nice, physically pleasant scenery for him to co-exist with the single place on earth which, though probably not always pleasant, welcomed him with comparative frequency and gave him comfort to at least some degree-- which was the inside of his head. But as that never satisfies as an end-all, he realized the quest had to go on, and so with the completion of TABU he was preparing, if memory serves, to leave the south seas.
So via examination of Murnau's vision of a world that will not allow happiness to proceed uninterrupted, we find a variety of backgrounds, types of women, means of interference with the concept of contentment or happiness... but a consistency in the portrayal of the most important male being a let-down, either completely oblivious-- sort of dopey a la NOSFERATU or TARTUFFE-- or willfully ignorant/unattentive a la SUNRISE, FAUST, SCHLOSS. Psychoanalysis for weeks.
- NABOB OF NOWHERE
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I am bringing this up again here as my previous post on the 4 Devils got bumped to the Sunrise thread. Peerpee kindly responded and adds speculation as to its possible fate. So the question still seems to be why did Eisner hold on to the belief that there was a negative at Fox??
The original post and response -
The original post and response -
Fox report that they don't have anything, hence the documentary. I heard a story, I don't know if it's true, about how decades ago an actress stole the negative from Fox's archive and threw it in the sea.NABOB OF NOWHERE wrote:Apologies if this has been dealt with somewhere but a search didn't throw anything up.
I've just been watching the 4 Devils doc. on MoC's Sunrise and comparing it with Lotte Eisner's account in her Murnau book. Although she bases her writing on memories of a pre-war viewing she states quite categorically that although there are no extant prints Fox have a negative.
Anyone have more on this?
- HerrSchreck
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Yes I wouldn't even give it a second thought if I'd read it in Eisner; there are so many speculations, inaccuracies, pieces of gossip, etc, that were resident in vintage film writing, i e prior to the home vid days (meaning, prior to so much investigation, re-evaluation, red herring shooting, clarification, etc), so much of it put out to pasture or otherwise resolved. Back in those days folks like Eisner were among the few who had basic knowledge of the silent years, as so few in the media cared. Now we see how much misleading info they (mostly unintentionally) promulgated as vaults and estates and collections open and are made available.
The first disc the TRACES OF A LOST FILM appears on is the (excellent) Fox disx for SUNRISE. That should tell you something right there.
The first disc the TRACES OF A LOST FILM appears on is the (excellent) Fox disx for SUNRISE. That should tell you something right there.
- Mr Sausage
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- tryavna
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Actually, I was thinking of the same thing as I was reading through this thread. Perhaps because the young man is using the cinema as his weapon of choice in the framing battle of wills, Murnau is identifying with him. Both the young man and Murnau himself are using the cinema as a means of uncovering the foibles of other men (and possibly masculinity in general?).Mr_sausage wrote:Agreed on the males in the movie within a movie in Tartuffe; yet the young man putting on this show for his uncle(?) and the housekeeper in the opening and closing segments seems a fairly cunning man, even if his methods for exposing crime are a bit outlandish.
- Mr Sausage
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That's interesting; I wonder how much we're supposed to associate him with Murnau the filmmaker, especially considering the moment where the young man walks up to the camera to address the audience. This does indeed seem like Murnau depicting his role, the filmmaker, as the exposer of truth, the one eye (if I recall, the film is full of watchful eyes--Tartuffe's, the old woman's, ect.) whose gaze intends to discover rather than restrain. Although Murnau depicts this little film within a film as the height of artifice and control it is in the service of moral truth rather than of avarice, unlike the false constructions of Tartuffe and the old woman.tryavna wrote:Actually, I was thinking of the same thing as I was reading through this thread. Perhaps because the young man is using the cinema as his weapon of choice in the framing battle of wills, Murnau is identifying with him. Both the young man and Murnau himself are using the cinema as a means of uncovering the foibles of other men (and possibly masculinity in general?).Mr_sausage wrote:Agreed on the males in the movie within a movie in Tartuffe; yet the young man putting on this show for his uncle(?) and the housekeeper in the opening and closing segments seems a fairly cunning man, even if his methods for exposing crime are a bit outlandish.
In Murnau's world does the male artist get off with a bit of brains? Someone who has seen more Murnau than me can surely shed more light on this.
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- HerrSchreck
- Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:46 am
That is utterly fascinating. That truly never occurred to me. Great post.tryavna wrote:Actually, I was thinking of the same thing as I was reading through this thread. Perhaps because the young man is using the cinema as his weapon of choice in the framing battle of wills, Murnau is identifying with him. Both the young man and Murnau himself are using the cinema as a means of uncovering the foibles of other men (and possibly masculinity in general?).Mr_sausage wrote:Agreed on the males in the movie within a movie in Tartuffe; yet the young man putting on this show for his uncle(?) and the housekeeper in the opening and closing segments seems a fairly cunning man, even if his methods for exposing crime are a bit outlandish.
- tryavna
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Praise from Caesar.... Thanks.HerrSchreck wrote:That is utterly fascinating. That truly never occurred to me. Great post.
The fact that Tartuffe is a film-within-a-film has always been its most fascinating aspect for me. As smart an artist as Murnau was, I'm sure there's a bit of self-referentiality going on there.
- HerrSchreck
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- HerrSchreck
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Via my huge good fortune of getting to know a member of the forum who tends to remain in the background, to whom I am eternally thankful, I've acquired a pristine copy of Eisner's Murnau (the O.O.P. english-language version).
Not only is it A Biography About Frederich Wilhelm Murnau (a cause for celebration in itself, particularly for a man nailed to the english language) but it's one of the best biographies I've ever read, period. It so well conjures the man himself, his nature, his disposition, you can almost see him sitting there deep in his chair, his long legs neatly folded before him, the little knowing smile on his face as he watches everyone go about their business and suffer their corresponding struggles.
I'll be-- hopefully with Scharph's continued blessing (he once offered me the option of rebuilding this entire page from scratch due to my obvious mania for all things FWM)-- dressing up this Murnau section, getting a photo in there up top (and try to settle on a single opening quote or two).. but I'd love to, after I get over the hump of a private project I'm working on, reproduce quotes here from the book by and about Murnau, which so well conjure the man and his times. The bounty of this book is too fantastic to hog.
Not only is it A Biography About Frederich Wilhelm Murnau (a cause for celebration in itself, particularly for a man nailed to the english language) but it's one of the best biographies I've ever read, period. It so well conjures the man himself, his nature, his disposition, you can almost see him sitting there deep in his chair, his long legs neatly folded before him, the little knowing smile on his face as he watches everyone go about their business and suffer their corresponding struggles.
I'll be-- hopefully with Scharph's continued blessing (he once offered me the option of rebuilding this entire page from scratch due to my obvious mania for all things FWM)-- dressing up this Murnau section, getting a photo in there up top (and try to settle on a single opening quote or two).. but I'd love to, after I get over the hump of a private project I'm working on, reproduce quotes here from the book by and about Murnau, which so well conjure the man and his times. The bounty of this book is too fantastic to hog.
- markhax
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Congratulations, Schreck! This is an indispensable book. I can't understand why California doesn't reprint it. I got a copy on interlibrary loan about a year ago and scanned most of it. There's an English version listed on ABE at $60, slightly smudged. I trust you got a better deal.HerrSchreck wrote:Via my huge good fortune of getting to know a member of the forum who tends to remain in the background, to whom I am eternally thankful, I've acquired a pristine copy of Eisner's Murnau (the O.O.P. english-language version).
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
How many of his pre-Nosferatu films are extant? Would that be an appropriate box of the survivors?
- HerrSchreck
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
If I told you guys the "deal" I got-- you'd say "Lucky bastard!" It was a gift given by a thoroughly right guy. A member here.
Of the extant pre NOS films, there is GANG IN DIE NACHT, SCHLOSS V, and BRENNENDE.. using the list above. There's also a fragment of Satanas thats been found-- a trailer really.
Of the extant pre NOS films, there is GANG IN DIE NACHT, SCHLOSS V, and BRENNENDE.. using the list above. There's also a fragment of Satanas thats been found-- a trailer really.
- Tommaso
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
The Italians have just restored a one-reel fragment of Murnau's "Marizza" and will show it publicly in two days time. Info in Italian with some gorgeous screenshots here.
And thanks to Roger Skarsten over at the German Stummfilmforum for mentioning it there.
And thanks to Roger Skarsten over at the German Stummfilmforum for mentioning it there.
- markhax
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Thanks, Tommaso! How tantalizing! My Italian isn't perfect, but as I read it is the first reel of the film, the only reel known to have survived. In its full Italian version the film was 1572 meters (the German version was 1735m)--the web page doesn't say how many meters the fragment is, but since the film had five acts I assume it had five reels, and that this represents about a fifth of it.
This is the film Murnau made just after Der Gang in die Nacht, his earliest extant film, and just before Schloss Vogelöd. For some reason, however, its premiere came after the latter, on January 1922, about six weeks before 'Nosferatu'. The screenplay was by Hans Janowitz, who had collaborated with Carl Mayer on 'Caligari,' and Karl Freund was the cinematographer. Three reviews of the German version are excerpted in FRIEDRICH WILHELM MURNAU: EIN MELANCHOLIKER DES FILMS.
This is the film Murnau made just after Der Gang in die Nacht, his earliest extant film, and just before Schloss Vogelöd. For some reason, however, its premiere came after the latter, on January 1922, about six weeks before 'Nosferatu'. The screenplay was by Hans Janowitz, who had collaborated with Carl Mayer on 'Caligari,' and Karl Freund was the cinematographer. Three reviews of the German version are excerpted in FRIEDRICH WILHELM MURNAU: EIN MELANCHOLIKER DES FILMS.
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- Knappen
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Eeeek!!
When was this found?
Am writing this in the airport train after a week in Berlin where I picked up half a dozen early German talkies.
When was this found?
Am writing this in the airport train after a week in Berlin where I picked up half a dozen early German talkies.
- Tommaso
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Aaah.... which were these? In any case, hope to see you 'back in action' elsewhere soon...Knappen wrote:Am writing this in the airport train after a week in Berlin where I picked up half a dozen early German talkies.
No idea when the film was found, but filmhistoriker.de reports that it comes from the private archive of some Italian collector.
- Knappen
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Well, actually they're not that early films. And not at all rare for a German collector like you. I made some picks that had Deutsch für Höregeschädigte so that I will be more encouraged to enjoy them with my rusty German although fansubs are available for some of them: Die Drei von der Tankstelle, Hotel Sacher, Amphitryon, Bel Ami, Kleider machen Leute and Heimat. The last two are from Black Hill and don't have any subs.
- Tommaso
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Well, I was only hoping you were doing some secret deals on a Berlin Hintertreppe...
Great choices all, of course. "Tankstelle", the quintessential German musical if you forget about "Der Kongress tanzt" for a moment. Not enough emoticons here to give Lilian her due. But heavens, you just reminded me that I haven't seen "Hotel Sacher" yet. Don't tell anyone.
Great choices all, of course. "Tankstelle", the quintessential German musical if you forget about "Der Kongress tanzt" for a moment. Not enough emoticons here to give Lilian her due. But heavens, you just reminded me that I haven't seen "Hotel Sacher" yet. Don't tell anyone.
- Knappen
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
I DID do a secret deal and am bringing home an external drive that I just managed to get through customs. Haha: The very hush-hush exchange took place in an East Berlin apartment and was concluded by intoxication of illegal substances.
- Tommaso
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Ah, good, though I have the strange feeling that I know the contents of that external drive already. Some real goodies there, though I didn't have a chance to try the substances.... 'Nuff said.
- HerrSchreck
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Wow! Those are some gorgeous looking shots-- pure Murnau. Tantalizing and exciting and yet at the same time utterly depressing (because that's all we'll apparently get to see of Marizza). You can see him smack-bang in his Swedish-Stiller-influenced phase, with the beautiful use of landscape combined with eerie studio interiors... very reminiscent of NOS and GANG IN D, so unsurprising it's right from that early-2o's era.
Reassuring to know that there are still many hidden treasures out there remaining to be discovered.... whether or not we can see through our intoxication-of-illegal-Berlin-substances eyeballs......
BROTHER!
Reassuring to know that there are still many hidden treasures out there remaining to be discovered.... whether or not we can see through our intoxication-of-illegal-Berlin-substances eyeballs......
BROTHER!
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Always about Marizza, a link in english, in Antti Alanen's blog.
- andyli
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
A blu-ray of Nosferatu is set to be released on June 28th in Italy.