Am I correct that this means the Best Buy version includes The Battle for Citizen Kane, but not RKO 281?dx23 wrote:Picked the Best Buy edition and it includes discs 1 and 2 with a 48 page booklet.
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That would make it similar to the 2001 DVD release. Also, FWIW, DVD Aficionado says yes.
- dx23
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Yes, it leaves out RKO 281 (which is available in a lot of places for less than $5) and the lobby cards and movie program. I haven't opened mine yet but I believe the 48 page booklet included in the Ultimate set has been converted into the 48 page packaging digibook.Jeff wrote:Am I correct that this means the Best Buy version includes The Battle for Citizen Kane, but not RKO 281?dx23 wrote:Picked the Best Buy edition and it includes discs 1 and 2 with a 48 page booklet.
- Jeff
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Sold on the Best Buy version then. Who needs a shelf-hogging box of crap? I'm sure Ambersons will turn up on its own eventually.
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Be prepared to eat your words, Warners sure do seem to want to stick it to their fanbase.Jeff wrote:Sold on the Best Buy version then. Who needs a shelf-hogging box of crap? I'm sure Ambersons will turn up on its own eventually.
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And there's no filler! Jesus I have trouble getting through entire sets in Criterion because I want to digest everything! Two commentary tracks? That means I'm watching that movie three times, plus more features.
Does anyone here actually like the booklets/photos/other collectible stuff like that? I personally don't care at all for this stuff.
Does anyone here actually like the booklets/photos/other collectible stuff like that? I personally don't care at all for this stuff.
- Roger Ryan
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With all the hubbub about AMBERSONS, I just wanted to comment that the KANE Blu-ray does indeed look superb. The image has a lovely amount of grain that makes it look like real film, the contrasts are excellent and the picture is sharp and detailed. At the same time, I didn't detect any damage whatsoever. In effect, the Blu-ray corrects all of the issues of the 2001 DVD while maintaining a sharp, damage-free image.
The deluxe packaging is fine as well, but nothing spectacular. The Rosebud sled is a folder which contains the original 1941 program (a nicely-done reproduction) and other promotional items. I can really do without the hackneyed lobby displays, but I smiled when seeing a copy of a Schwab's Drugstore receipt for a case of Scotch (for a "Studio Party")! Also interesting is a budget breakdown that determines what each of the actors will be paid. The hardcover booklet is nothing special, but it provides a more even-handed summary of the making of the film than the BATTLE OVER CITIZEN KANE documentary does. Frustratingly, the storyboards featured in the booklet are printed black-on-red making it almost impossible to discern what they represent.
There is one questionable art direction choice that rivals the misuse of the deleted scenes stills on the AMBERSONS packaging and that is the Blu-ray label image for the KANE disc. The image shows three head shots peering through missing jigsaw pieces. Two of the heads belong to Welles as Kane and Ruth Warrick as Emily (Kane's first wife); the third is actually Joan Blair as Georgie the madam! The images of Welles and Blair are taken from a production still for the infamous brothel scene that was cut from the film. I'm sure the Warner art department thought Blair was Dorothy Comingore (who played Kane's second wife Susan) and that the image was meant to represent the love triangle featured in the film. So, good for Blair; her role was cut out of the movie, but her photo is now prominently featured on the Blu-ray disc itself!
The deluxe packaging is fine as well, but nothing spectacular. The Rosebud sled is a folder which contains the original 1941 program (a nicely-done reproduction) and other promotional items. I can really do without the hackneyed lobby displays, but I smiled when seeing a copy of a Schwab's Drugstore receipt for a case of Scotch (for a "Studio Party")! Also interesting is a budget breakdown that determines what each of the actors will be paid. The hardcover booklet is nothing special, but it provides a more even-handed summary of the making of the film than the BATTLE OVER CITIZEN KANE documentary does. Frustratingly, the storyboards featured in the booklet are printed black-on-red making it almost impossible to discern what they represent.
There is one questionable art direction choice that rivals the misuse of the deleted scenes stills on the AMBERSONS packaging and that is the Blu-ray label image for the KANE disc. The image shows three head shots peering through missing jigsaw pieces. Two of the heads belong to Welles as Kane and Ruth Warrick as Emily (Kane's first wife); the third is actually Joan Blair as Georgie the madam! The images of Welles and Blair are taken from a production still for the infamous brothel scene that was cut from the film. I'm sure the Warner art department thought Blair was Dorothy Comingore (who played Kane's second wife Susan) and that the image was meant to represent the love triangle featured in the film. So, good for Blair; her role was cut out of the movie, but her photo is now prominently featured on the Blu-ray disc itself!
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And i bet you Kane would have had more fun with Georgie at the brothel than looking at Susan doing jigsaw puzzles
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Just thought I'd let everyone know that the "70th Anniversary Ultimate Collector's Edition"-blu does not come in a blu-ray sized case. It's DVD height, like The Jazz Singer DVD-box and will therefore not fit in shelves that only fit blu-rays (like mine)
You'd think some of the reviewers would have mentioned this before.
Anyway, I shall have to get rid of it and acquire the Best Buy edition instead. It has the second disc of extras and only misses out on RKO 281, right?
You'd think some of the reviewers would have mentioned this before.
Anyway, I shall have to get rid of it and acquire the Best Buy edition instead. It has the second disc of extras and only misses out on RKO 281, right?
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Correct. It's also currently on sale for $10.99. I just bought a copy yesterday.hamsterburger wrote:Anyway, I shall have to get rid of it and acquire the Best Buy edition instead. It has the second disc of extras and only misses out on RKO 281, right?
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Regardless, post-Christmas season, I hope WB issues a non-exclusive, single disc BD version. The $35 retail on the Best Buy edition is ridiculous, and dropping the crappy American Experience documentary would be more than welcome if it makes it affordable to everyone in any region.
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Where's the thread for complaining about Best Buy? They just canceled my order for their exclusive BD release of Citizen Kane, and the listing has now disappeared from their site.
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The Best Buy exclusive is no longer exclusive - you can now get the Blu-ray book edition at Amazon (and elsewhere starting next month I believe).swo17 wrote:Where's the thread for complaining about Best Buy? They just canceled my order for their exclusive BD release of Citizen Kane, and the listing has now disappeared from their site.
Take a look at the current Amazon listing for the KANE Blu-ray and you'll see some crazy pricing. The "Ultimate Collector's Edition" is $48...and $33 if you accept AMBERSONS as part of the package (apparently it's a $15 credit just to take the DVD of Welles' second film off their hands). Of course, you could choose to buy this set "used" from the Amazon marketplace for $500!
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Those copies on Amazon are being sold by third parties (who bought them at Best Buy and are selling them for double the price or more). The set including Ambersons is a great deal now, but I'm extremely pleased with the Blu-ray book. I was able to get the $10 price at Best Buy via in-store pick up.Roger Ryan wrote:The Best Buy exclusive is no longer exclusive - you can now get the Blu-ray book edition at Amazon (and elsewhere starting next month I believe).
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Ah yes, I only saw that Amazon was selling the Blu-ray book new ($47.99); didn't notice that they were only fulfilling a third party source. Sorry for the misinformation. Reportedly, this edition gets a wide release next month, so hopefully the price comes down.
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If their experience is anything like mine, they may not get sent the packaging. The vast majority of my review copies consist of a checkdisc (or sometimes even a DVD-R/BD-R) with a press release, with the booklet coming either as a photocopy or with an emailed link to download a PDF version. Which is why I rarely mention packaging.hamsterburger wrote:Just thought I'd let everyone know that the "70th Anniversary Ultimate Collector's Edition"-blu does not come in a blu-ray sized case. It's DVD height, like The Jazz Singer DVD-box and will therefore not fit in shelves that only fit blu-rays (like mine)
You'd think some of the reviewers would have mentioned this before.
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It fits "nicely" next to the Apocalypse Now Blu-ray set. Or, rather, doesn't
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The same thing happened to me. And I was only refunded $6.51 (of my $10.99 purchase)...I had to call Best Buy, and it turns out they charged me a restocking fee(!) for an order that they cancelled on an item they discontinued.. The woman I talked to said that was ridiculous, though, and said that I should get the rest refunded in the next 2 days.swo17 wrote:Where's the thread for complaining about Best Buy? They just canceled my order for their exclusive BD release of Citizen Kane, and the listing has now disappeared from their site.
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Well, Best Buy has now not only issued me a refund but also an $11 gift card, so I suppose all is forgiven.
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I just went to my local Best Buy, which had about 5 copies of this, AND it was $10.99. I used my gift card on it, so I'm all set.swo17 wrote:Well, Best Buy has now not only issued me a refund but also an $11 gift card, so I suppose all is forgiven.
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It's again for $10.99 at Best Buy although the digibook is not found anymore on the site. People have to check their stores for availability.
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Sight And Sound just compiled the 10 best films of all time and for the first time in 50 years Citizen Kane is in second place behind Vertigo. Vertigo is a great film but i would have selected The Godfather as the best film to go on the list.
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You, sir, have completely redefined my entire outlook on cinema - nay, on life itself - with this riveting, informative, and wholly necessary posting. God bless you, sir.atcolomb wrote:Sight And Sound just compiled the 10 best films of all time and for the first time in 50 years Citizen Kane is in second place behind Vertigo. Vertigo is a great film but i would have selected The Godfather as the best film to go on the list.
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Sight and what? What is this list you speak of???
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Atcolomb needed more than one lesson... csm126 and mfunk made sure he GOT more than one lesson.